
Intrinsically Ordered
Exploring the intersection of queer identity and catholicism - sharing stories of those who've left, remained, and created their own journeys; providing commentary on the catholic church's harmful teachings; helping those who've been hurt.
Episodes
42 episodes
Eucharistic Miracles Are FAKE - Actual Scientist Review "Scientific Evidence" of Catholic Miracle Claims w/ @Nontradicath
Join the community and join the group discussion on discord: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextradI’m joined by Kevin for a deep dive into one of Catholicism’s most emotionally compelling and scientifically dubious claims: Eucharistic mir...
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Why Jordan Peterson Made Me An Atheist
Jordan Peterson is famous for inspiring many to take religion seriously — but for me, he had the opposite effect. In this video, I walk you through how reading Maps of Meaning turned me from a devout Catholic who almost became a priest into an ...
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35:21

debunking EVERY catholic apologetic argument - ex-catholic apologists
On today's episode, we react to a 27 page document that reports to take people from agnosticism to catholicism. Myself and Colin (ex-traditional catholics) debunk this document while getting an outsider's perspective from our friend Greg (never...
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3:21:47

Was Pope Francis Really an LGBT Ally? A Critical Analysis
In this critical follow-up to our earlier reflections on Pope Francis’s passing, three gay ex-Catholics break down the truth behind the progressive myth. While headlines hail him as a revolutionary, we ask: did anything actually change for quee...
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51:15

Pope Francis LGBTQ Legacy? What He Did (and Didn’t Do) for Us
Pope Francis has passed—and within hours, I sat down with Justin from Empty Chairs for an off-the-cuff emergency podcast. As a gay ex-Catholic and a gay current Catholic, we unpack Pope Francis’s complicated legacy on LGBTQ issues. Did he reall...
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50:36

What Does Pope Francis' Death Mean for LGBT Catholics?
Pope Francis has passed. And as someone who was once on the path to becoming a conservative Catholic priest—and now lives openly as a gay man—his death hits hard. In this video, I break down what Pope Francis actually did for LGBTQ Catholics. F...
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the STRANGEST anti-gay philosophical arguments I've ever heard - w/ @Kenapologeticscatholic
In this episode of the Intrinsically Ordered Podcast, I sit down with Minh ( @Kenapologeticscatholic ) a Catholic apologist and street evangelist, for one of...
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Why I Treat Homophobic Christians Like Vegans
In today's episode, I unpack the mental model I use when Christians try to impose their beliefs—especially around queer rights. I compare their moral arguments to veganism (yes, really) to show how the more forcefully someone wants to control o...
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Season 3
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Episode 5
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13:37

How to Leave Catholicism/High-Control Religion & Stay Happy w/ Evelyn from Leave Laugh Love
Leaving a fundamentalist or conservative form of Catholicism is more than just walking away from a church—it’s walking away from an entire worldview, identity, and sometimes your community. In this episode of Intrinsically Ordered, Evelyn from ...
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Season 3
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Episode 8
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1:11:37

101 Ways to Go To Hell in Catholicism (And Why It Makes No Sense)
In this episode, I discuss my journey from being a traditional Catholic to questioning and ultimately leaving the faith. I delve into the ambiguities and contradictions within Catholic teachings about sin and morality. Sharing personal stories,...
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Season 3
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Episode 7
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10:19

What Sends You to Hell in Catholicism? Apologist & Atheist Debate Catholic Teaching
In this episode of the Intrinsically Ordered Podcast, I sit down with guest Cameron Riecker, a prominent Catholic YouTuber, discuss the complexities and uncertainties within Catholic moral teaching. We dive deep into the distinctions between ve...
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Season 3
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Episode 7
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56:44

The False Promises of Traditional Catholicism - Inside Catholicism's Most Radical Sect
Join the community and join the group discussion on discord: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextradAs someone who was once a zealous traditional Catholic—praying daily rosaries, attending Latin Mass, and even discerning monastic life—I've ...
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Season 3
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Episode 6
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41:37

Christians, What if Being Gay Were a Choice?
For years, I begged God to make me straight. I read every book, watched every lecture, and tried every method of "healing." But what if being queer isn’t something to fix? What if it's something you could choose — not out of rebellion, but out ...
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Season 3
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Episode 4
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14:09

Catholicism & Gay Marriage Debate: Natural Law, Ethics, and Legal Considerations in a Modern Society
I got to sit down with a professional catholic apologist to have perhaps the most comprehensive discussion on natural law & gay marriage. We originally planned an hour discussion on a number of topics but found enough to get into just on th...
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Season 3
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Episode 2
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1:36:52

Catholic Sacraments Make No Logical Sense: Placebo, Ritual, and Boundary Maintenance
Are Catholic sacraments truly channels of divine grace—or just powerful human rituals? In this episode of Intrinsically Ordered, we question the supernatural claims behind sacraments like baptism and marriage. With guest Colin, we explore their...
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Season 3
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Episode 3
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52:39

Catholic Apologist vs Ex-Catholic Atheist: Evidence for God, Morality, and Catholic Infallibility
Does faith require evidence, or is experience enough? In this episode of Intrinsically Ordered, I sit down with Noah from @Jesus_and_Whatnot to debate Cath...
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Season 3
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Episode 1
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1:22:50

5 Things That Would Make Me Believe in God - Ex-Catholic Atheist On Divine Hiddenness & Interstellar
After years of grappling with this question, I finally have an answer—thanks to Interstellar. This film unknowingly lays out the six conditions that could actually convince me a higher intelligence exists. But even if that were true… would it l...
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Season 2
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Episode 7
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15:38

I Debated Michael Knowles on Jubilee - Yes, Gay Marriage CAN Exist - DEBUNKING Bad Conservative Philosophy
In this video, I break down my debate with Michael Knowles on Jubilee about the topic of same-sex marriage, philosophy, and conservative ideology. We go deep into metaphysics, logic, and how anti-LGBT arguments are structured to sound airtight—...
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Season 2
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Episode 6
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19:25

The WEIRD Reason The Catholic Church Wants To Control Your Sex Life - Trent Horn Debunked
Catholic apologist Trent Horn recently posted a video titled "The Sex Questions Almost No One Can Answer", where he attempts to justify Catholic sexual ethics using Natural Law philosophy. But are these arguments sound?Join my discord f...
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Season 2
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Episode 5
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31:47

Finding Meaning Without God: Running A Thousand Miles, Secular Buddhism, Addiction, and Trauma
In this episode of Intrinsically Ordered, I sit down with Jason—a long-time friend, ultramarathoner, and secular Buddhist—to explore life beyond dogma. We dive deep into questions of meaning, suffering, and personal transformation. Jason shares...
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Season 2
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Episode 4
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1:34:57

'just STOP being gay' - chastity speaker's desperate plea to end gay marriage (Jason Evert)
What if you're gay but don't want to be gay? Jason Evert has the perfect solution, just hate yourself. He gives us a 'third option' to homosexuality where you can hate yourself, but publicly. Someone please patent this man's genius methods and ...
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Season 1
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Episode 18
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10:55

Can Gay Men Become Catholic Priests? Gay Ex-Catholics Explain Recent Italian Bishops' Document
Why are young catholics sent to conversion therapy? Does the Catholic Church discriminate against gay men? In today's episode, I tell my story of being rejected from becoming a monk for being gay - or as they like to say: experience same-sex at...
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Season 2
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Episode 3
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1:34:38

'CHAIRS prove being gay is a SIN' - crazy pastor's terrible arguments (Father Mike Schmitz)
Father Mike Schmitz (celebrity catholic priest) uses chairs to demonstrate teleology, and then makes anti-gay arguments from Theology of the Body. This approach fails in so many ways, and I don't think chairs are our best proof of teleology.
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Season 1
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Episode 16
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12:25

Debunking the Catholic Church's Anti-Contraception Philosophy
Let's dive deep into the Catholic Church's controversial teaching on contraception, its roots in outdated philosophies, and the societal impact of enforcing such dogma. From Humanae Vitae to the rise of "Theology of the Body," we'll critically ...
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Season 2
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Episode 2
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30:50

Former Sedevacantist Seminarian Kicked Out for Being Gay
In this episode of Intrinsically Ordered, we sit down with a former Sedevacantist seminarian who opens up about his journey into one of Catholicism's most radical branches, his time in seminary, and the personal struggles that led him ...
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Season 2
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Episode 1
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