Intrinsically Ordered
Exploring the intersection of queer identity and catholicism - sharing stories of those who've left, remained, and created their own journeys; providing commentary on the catholic church's harmful teachings; helping those who've been hurt.
Episodes
75 episodes
Inside the SSPX: Former Member Explains the ENTIRE History and Excommunication of the Society of Saint Pious the X
The recent SSPX excommunications have left a lot of Catholics—and even journalists—trying to understand what actually happened. In this episode, I sit down with Hunter, a former SSPX traditionalist (and also former sedevacantist seminarian), to...
Why Do Catholic Influencers Excuse Right-Wing Catholics and Condemn Left-Wing Catholics?
In this episode of Apostate Imprimatur, Colin and I react to Brian Holdsworth's video asking how to tell a "real" Catholic from a "fake" Catholic. What starts as a discussion about Catholic identity quickly turns into debates about langu...
Why Conservative Christian Should Oppose Conversion Therapy - Pieter Valk (LPC)
What if the conversation around Christianity and LGBT people is far more complicated than either side admits?In this episode, I sit down with therapist, author, and speaker Peter Valk (LPC) to explore one of the most difficult conversat...
Why Online Catholics Are Fighting About Pre-Marital Kissing: Online Extremism and Toxic Saint Quotes
In this episode, Colin, Kevin NonTradiCath, and I react to Christian Wagner and Noah/Jesus and Whatnots' argument that kissing before marriage is sinful and compare it with the historical sources he cites. Along the way, we explore the writings...
Ex-Pastor Reacts to Famous Christian Pastor's Toxic Relationship Advice w/ Brian Recker
Christian marriage advice often sounds inspiring, but what happens when it encourages people to ignore compatibility, personal calling, financial realities, or even their own well-being?In this episode, I sit down with former evangelica...
How to Find a Spiritual Home During Deconstruction with @GospelSimplicity
For years I assumed the choice was simple: Catholicism or Protestantism. But the deeper I looked, the more I realized there is an entire world of high church Christianity that most people never hear about.In this conversation, I'm joine...
Why I No Longer Call Myself An Atheist
When I was a traditional Catholic, I was taught exactly what atheism was supposed to be: lonely, meaningless, directionless, and ultimately incapable of providing a fulfilling life. Then I became an atheist myself.In this episode, I ref...
Why Catholicism Is Just Protestantism With Extra Steps - Atheist Imprimatur - Brian Holdsworth
Today on the Intrinsically Ordered Podcast, Colin returns for the first episode of our new reaction series: The Apostates' Imprimatur. We react to a video from @BrianH...
I Watched Every Video by FORMER "De-Transitioner" Neeza Powers: Right-Wing Christian Celebrity
I spent a week researching one of the internet’s most viral and controversial gender stories - someone who detransitioned, became a Christian influencer, and then ultimately transitioned again. In this video, I break down the full timeline, the...
I Left the Church: Talking With My Former Youth Minister about Mental Health
Former youth minister (and current Catholic) Ashley Kiefer joins me to talk about the messy overlap of faith, OCD, and scrupulosity. We trace her journey from professional Catholic youth worker to licensed therapist, why quoting the catechism a...
I'm a Gay Atheist. I went to a Christian YouTuber Conference with @heliocentric
I got invited by @HeliocentricOfficial to one of the biggest evangelical Christian YouTuber conferences in the country… as a gay atheist. Surrounded by Christian a...
Is the Latin Mass Really Saving the Catholic Church? (w/ Kevin Nontradicath)
What if the Latin Mass isn’t the magic solution everyone online says it is?In this episode of the Intrinsically Ordered Podcast, I sit down with Kevin Non-Trad, who was literally born into an FSSP Latin Mass community, went to the paris...
I Read The Entire Supreme Court Conversion Therapy Case (It's Not What The Media is Telling You)
I've been working on this case for almost a year now - and I figured I'd give you the ultimate guide to understanding what is evening happening with conversion therapy and the Supreme Court. In this video, I break down the law, the arguments, a...
"I Was Brainwashed Into Making Ex-Gay TikToks" - Interviewing Griffin on Conversion Therapy
In this episode of the Intrinsically Ordered Podcast, I sit down with Griffin to hear one of the most intense and personal stories I’ve encountered about growing up gay in a Christian environment. We talk about what it’s like to be taught that ...
Catholic Apologist Says Slavery Is Okay In Debate About Jesus' Resurrection
*Skip to 01:23:00 - if you just want to see the slavery bit*After a few months off podcasting, I came back with one of the wildest conversations I’ve had with a Catholic apologist. This is my third debate with Noah from
"I Was Raised In the Latin Mass. Here's Why I'm Not Catholic Anymore" - @KevinNonTradicath
I got to sit down in person with fellow ex-Catholic creator @Nontradicath for a long-awaited crossover: why we’re not Catholic anymore.Kevin shares...
Natural Law Actually Disagrees with the Catholic Church on Sexual Ethics w/ Chris Damian
In this episode of Intrinsically Ordered, Cade sits down with gay Catholic writer and lawyer Chris Damian to unpack one of the most abused buzzwords in Catholic debates: natural law.They trace how Aristotle, Aquinas, and virtue ethics g...
Why I Didn't Covert to Catholicism - Ex-Catholic Philosopher and Catholic YouTuber w/ @evan_raugust
I sit down with Catholic YouTuber @evan_raugust after a wild weekend where we went to seven churches in one weekend: Messianic Jewish, Catholic, Pentecostal, Ortho...
No, Gay People Didn't Ruin Your Friendships (Religious Catholic Homophobia Did)
Christian youtube video essays keep claiming that “LGBT ideology” ruined male friendship, but I have no clue what they're on about.As a gay ex-Catholic, I use my old theological training to look at the “and they were just roommates” dis...
Catholic vs Protestant vs Atheist Debates Online with Elijah Lamb (Christian Preacher)
After debating together on the Ellen Fisher Podcast, Elijah Lamb (Gen-Z Christian preacher and well-known TikToker) and I (ex-Catholic, now atheist debater) sat down to unpack Gen-Z Catholicism, Protestant/Catholic/Atheist debate culture, and w...
How the Right-Wing Is Bringing Back Conversion Therapy Through The Supreme Court (Chiles v Salazar)
My infographic about this case: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1a6-vYf6qIZ8r9xS3G_dRGTaF6qi-hOVK/view?usp=sharingA new “victim” has entered the culture war stage at the Supreme Court. After the “No Cake” baker and the “No Website” desi...
Religious Trauma Therapist On Identity, Self Sabotage, and Queer Identity After Religion (SC Nealy)
On this episode of The Intrinsically Ordered Podcast, I sit down with SC Neely—therapist, author of 30+ books, and specialist in religious trauma and queer/trans identity. We explore the real signs of religious trauma, how it overlaps with comp...
I Left the Catholic Church (Online Radicalization, The Latin Mass, and Finding Meaning Without God)
In this episode, I share my raw and personal journey through Catholicism—from being raised in a suburban Catholic family to becoming an intense religious fundamentalist who nearly entered a monastery. I explain what it was like to give every wa...
Catholic Mass & Drag Brunch: Community Meaning-Making Rituals (w/ Co-Host Colin)
What happens when you attend a traditional Latin Catholic Mass in the morning and a drag brunch in the afternoon? Surprisingly, these seemingly opposite worlds share more than you’d expect. In this episode, we unpack seven parallels between Cat...