Intrinsically Ordered
Exploring the intersection of queer identity and catholicism - sharing stories of those who've left, remained, and created their own journeys; providing commentary on the catholic church's harmful teachings; helping those who've been hurt.
Intrinsically Ordered
Why I Treat Homophobic Christians Like Vegans
In today's episode, I unpack the mental model I use when Christians try to impose their beliefs—especially around queer rights. I compare their moral arguments to veganism (yes, really) to show how the more forcefully someone wants to control others, the more evidence they need to bring to the table. Faith alone doesn’t cut it.
I walk through four levels of moral imperatives and the kind of proof each one demands. From personal convictions to theocratic dogma, I explain why your certainty should match your evidence—especially if you're trying to take away my rights. This isn’t just theology—it’s epistemology.
00:00 – I Treat Homophobic Christians Like Vegans
00:30 – What Counts as a Moral Imperative?
01:00 – My Journey: From Latin Mass to Deconstruction
01:36 – Level 1: Personal Belief Requires No Proof
02:57 – Level 2: Gentle Advocacy Needs Some Evidence
05:02 – Level 3: Telling Others What to Do? Prove It.
07:46 – Level 4: Forcing Belief = Irrefutable Proof Required
10:50 – Don't Get Stuck in the Weeds—Know the Burden
13:00 – Final Advice for Deconstructing Listeners
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