Intrinsically Ordered
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Intrinsically Ordered
I Debated Michael Knowles on Jubilee - Yes, Gay Marriage CAN Exist - DEBUNKING Bad Conservative Philosophy
In this video, I break down my debate with Michael Knowles on Jubilee about the topic of same-sex marriage, philosophy, and conservative ideology. We go deep into metaphysics, logic, and how anti-LGBT arguments are structured to sound airtight—but fall apart under scrutiny.
Michael and I come from the same religious movement, and I used to believe the same things he argues today. But as I studied philosophy and deconstructed my faith, I realized just how flimsy these arguments are.
Stick with me as we explore nominalism vs. realism, the Texas sharpshooter fallacy, and why Michael’s claims on metaphysical reality don’t hold up. This video will equip you to counter these arguments in everyday conversations and protect our rights from bad-faith actors.
00:00 - Introduction: My Debate with Michael Knowles
02:30 - The Core Argument: Does Gay Marriage Exist?
06:45 - Michael’s First Mistake: The Realism vs. Nominalism Trap
11:20 - The Texas Sharpshooter Fallacy: Cherry-Picking History
15:55 - Why Metaphysics Can’t Define Legal Marriage
21:10 - The Logical Impossibility Fallacy (And Why It’s B.S.)
26:40 - Why Michael’s Argument is Ultimately Religious, Not Logical
32:15 - Final Thoughts: How to Counter These Arguments IRL
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